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Following are just a few of the many and
continuingly degrading quotes lifted from universalist websites and emails
to me over the past several months. I do not post on universalist
websites and have not done so and I do not knowingly initiate emails to
universalists. So, these quotes were unprovoked, at least by me --
except that the universalists do not like me exposing their teaching as
unbiblical on CARM.
Judge for yourself how some universalists treat
those who oppose them. Please realize that even though there are a
very few universalists who are actually loving, far too many of them are
condemning zealots. They continue to demonstrate hatred towards
others who do not agree with universalism. This is dangerous because
they want converts to their philosophy as if it is the way, the truth, and
the life. Also, remember that they teach that God is infinite love
and will forgive all. You'd think that they might practice what they
preach and show more grace and love to people. But this isn't the
case. If you do not agree with them, or if you write against their
false view, they attack you -- continuously and say bad things about you
in mocking and condescending ways. Obviously, this not Christian
behavior.
So why keep a log of their posts? It is
simply to show the inconsistency, hypocrisy, and hatred spewed by
universalists on a regular basis towards those of us who consider
universalism a false teaching. You become like what you
follow. Why is it so many universalists are so hateful? Jesus
said that out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. Is
this what becoming a universalist means you have to become?
What is so sad is that when you read their posts
on their boards and their emails, you can really see how prideful they
are. They mock others, use sarcasm, take cheap shots, and speak
condescendingly about the "opposers to the truth of
universalism." In fact, you get the sense that if you do not
believe as they, you are not enlightened and you have a false
gospel.
Anyway, here are some of the many posts I've
collected recently. See for yourself as the continuing hatred is
displayed by the universalists.
- "I posted at that God forsaken Carm for
years. It is a vast wasteland with nothing but waterless holes and
tumbleweeds everywhere with blind religious wanna be's trying to help
the blind."
- First, I believe his use of the term "G-d
forsaken" is a violation of the command to not use God's name
in vain. God's name (title included) should only be used in
a respectful manner. Second, this poster is clearly upset
that CARM condemns universalism which is why he has made the
negative comments. He ignore the fact that CARM exposes
cults, refutes atheism, relativism, evolution, preaches the
gospel, and teaches sound doctrine. But, because CARM's
position is against universalism, he has nothing good to say about
CARM. Obviously, there is a little idolatry going on here
regarding universalism.
- "The ET [eternal torment] intellects at CARM
don't know a thing about "universalism," because they are
blinded to all but a phony caricature of what most of us who believe
Jesus is the Savior of all men actually believe. Fortunately, while
Matt and his elves spar with their windmills, the truth stands as tall
as ever."
- This goof shows that the poster is reacting to
universalism being exposed as an error. I have had hundreds
of encounters with universalists who have told me what they
believe and have defended their position before me. I know
what they teach and why as have many others on CARM who reject the
error of universalism. This person is simply trying to make
it look like we are ignorant. We aren't.
- "I hope you
don't hold it against Gary A. for speaking the Truth to Matt
Slick...It was in that format that the fine Brother (Gary) brought me
face to face with The Truth. I too was blocking the doors of heaven.
And after Gary shoved it down my throat I had to say he was certainly
right...FROM THE WORD saying so. Somebody HAS TO DELIVER THEM in the
SPIRIT they were intended and that was no SOFT SPIRIT telling the
Pharisees and Saducees they were of THEIR FATHER THE DEVIL!"
- What is sad about this quote is that it ignores the
truly horrible things said to me and others who deny
universalism. Amirault is extremely insulting and it seems
that his followers like to call those of us who deny their error
the worst kinds of names. How sad. Furthermore, notice
that "blocking the doors of heaven" means that I don't
preach universalism. I do, however, preach that Jesus is God
in flesh, died for our sins, was buried and rose from the dead and
that justification is by faith in Christ alone. Yet, simply
because I deny universalism, I am blocking the doors of
heaven. Notice that they equate universalism as being the
true gospel. This is idolatry.
- "I believe that believing doctrines of demons, can make a
person act like one, in wanting other people to suffer horribly."
- Here you can see how some universalists view the
Bible's doctrine of eternal punishment. They call it a
doctrine of demons. Now, with that kind of attitude you can
see how much hatred can be spoken by them.
- Grace is a hard concept for
religious people to grasp, because they are still trying to make
themselves righteous in the Father's eyes. One day they will see that
it wasn't what they did that counts, but what He did.
- This post aimed at believers in eternal damnation is
yet another false caricature of those who oppose
universalism. Please notice how this person accuses us of
not understanding grace and trying to earn our own
salvation. It is amazing to see this accusation of false
doctrine raised against us, especially when we Christians deny and
teach contrary to earning our own salvation.
- I
suggest, Angel of mercy, that you extend to those who have perhaps
just come out of the spiritual abuse of an ET church the same mercy
you want for guys like Matt Slick. We don't know if that person just
came back from a funeral of a best friend who committed suicide due to
Slick's kind of theology. Diabolic would NOT be an exaggeration for
this man's teachings. And the type of Calvinism he promotes has indeed
put many people into institutions, deep depression and even suicide. I
know that when Jesus came across people like Matt Slick, he didn't
pussyfoot around, he didn't spend months softening them up. He spoke
in a manner that any soldier of the kingdom had better learn to speak
if in fact they are letting the Holy Spirit have His way. New
Jerusalem is built upon the prophets and apostles of God. It would
behoove us ALLL to read and take into consideration ALLLLL of their
words and not be selective choosing only those words that suit our
personality. You won't find many Doctor Spocks in the Bible if you
find one at all. You'll find that the politically correct in the Bible
were usually the enemies of God.
- By now it should be obvious that the universalists are
fixated on me. Even though I rarely, if ever, post on any
other boards on the internet (never on a universalist board), and
even though there is no universalism discussion board on CARM,
they continue to say bad things about me. Why? Because
I oppose universalism. Note however, that I preach Jesus as
God in flesh, Him crucified, dead, buried, risen from the dead,
and that you must put your faith in Jesus to be saved. Yet,
because I don't accept universalism, I am diabolical.
Amazing. When someone is this fixated on a philosophy over
the preaching of the gospel, it is called idolatry.
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When
unies are kind to Slick he accuses them of unie sloppy agape and when
someone has the nerve to paint him as he really is, he whines about
how unies don't exhibit love. He is a master baiter and it's easy to
get hooked by him. His favorite preacher is Jonathan Edwards. Read the
sermon Sinners in the hands of an angry god" and you'll get an
idea of who Matt Slick is and his theology.
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This sad post pretty much needs no
comment. But, for clarification, my favorite preaching is
not Jonathan Edwards. Too bad that these universalists try
and read minds. They aren't very good at it.
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It sure was good at making it clear
that the god of the runner of that board is the same MONSTER
Christians in general are trying to show the world they should love. I
tried to respond and had to get a password and decided it just isn't
worth wasting my fingers. They are some nasty and blind folks there,
something like the god they worship.
- In other words, if you don't believe in universalism,
then the God you believe in is a monster. It is amazing how
fixated on universalism different people can become. They
seem to be given over to this philosophy mentally and emotionally.
I
hope that these posts make it clear that something is seriously wrong with
the behavior of many universalists. Is this what believing
universalism leads to?
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